As for the 800 Quarayza executed (something disputed by historians), whenever Muhammad judged a case regarding Jews, he referred to the Torah for punishment, and as treason was their crime, supposedly execution was their punishment as laid out in the Torah.
And to say that Muhammad started the war with the Meccans is ludicrous. As I'm sure you know, and as I said before, the Muslims were persecuted to a horrendous degree in Mecca, and the Meccans sought to kill them wherever they fled.
As for the mother of five, are we talking about the same woman who conspired to kill Muhammad? As for the other vague descriptions, it would help to know who specifically you are talking about. With regards to "dozens of Jewish citizens, including poets and merchants who were accused of mocking Islam, numerous adulterers, at least one slave girl" Who exactly are you reffering to? Its hard to argue against your vague statements.
The person you mentioned who was executed as he was crying out for his children was one of two men murdered by angry soldiers (not executed on the orders of Muhammad) for dumping sheep excrement on Muhammad. You have to understand that the soldiers on the Muslim side were men who were persecuted, harrased, driven out of their homes, and murdered by the Meccans and the Quaraysh for what they believed in. I'm not excusing the actions, but they are understandable.
Sorry for the delayed response, I haven't been checking back to this site for a looong time. To adress your points:
1.) No, I would not say the same about Stalin because there is actual evidence that proves what he did. None of the points you made in that statement were backed up by evidence.
Now to adress your other points, it appears you copied and pasted them because I've seen that exact same argument from most Anti-Islam people, but I'll still address them:
Naskh has nothing to do with this. And, you can say that Muhammad ordered the killings of thousands of people, but unless you cite an incident then there's no debate. I could just as easily say that you personally ordered the killings of thousands of people, and that statement would have as much validity as yours.
The Enterprise is faster than even the Millennium Falcon at warp speed, ergo, if tactically maneuvered properly, the Enterprise could defeat anything that the Star Wars universe throws at it.
^Why are you talking to me like I'm a terrorist? Did you even look at the YTMND? It was saying that terrorists AREN'T MUSLIM. Ergo, you do not include all Muslims into one generalization.
^You know, you have an uncanny spelling of the word "tollerance"...Ah yes, most anti-Islamic websites spell it that way. Coincedence? Or do you not know enough about the meaning of the word to be able to spell it?
Seriously, your argument is flawed. At least these other guys brought some shred of an argument to back up their statements. Just because you say a women must be killed in Islam if she doesn't cover herself doesn't make it true.
I don't how people can say that organized religion kills people, when in fact its plain obvious that its the people who abuse their beliefs that kill the most people. The fact that atheists are the number one killer just shows that religion is not the source to justify murder. But if they still believe that, the argument is therefore elligible that if they think organized religion should be banned, then so should Atheism.
So, you're saying Mickey Mouse is Ottoman. Because, I don't think any terrorist group using a crescent or star for their symbok, though I could be wrong. But for now, I give it a two.
lly and friend, either as a sign of that friendship and/or for the protection of his daughter, they were married. The fact that it was a political marriage is shown by the fact that she was still a virgin after his death.
his followers. Since when does standing up for people considered evil? The second claim that Muhammad was evil because he had 11 wives, while Jesus had none.
Muhammad and Jesus lived in different societies, in different cultures and in different times, many marriages in Muhammad's times were considered normal for political purposes. If you look at the list of wives, most of them were political marriages, including Aisha (who could have been anywhere from 9-14). She was the daughter of Muhammad's greatest
4. "Muhammad was evil, he fought and
killed people which Jesus didnt do, he had an overall total of 11 wives
while Jesus had none, and had a 9 year old wife named Aisha, that shows you how sick he was."
Well, lets go part by part, first the claim that Muhammad killed people but Jesus didn't, so Muhammad must be evil. Muhammad's message wasn't out by the time the people in charge came to flog him and torture him and his followers. He fled to Medina, where he stood up for himself against the people tortur
one who will help!" (4:75)
That string of verses says people who fight for the oppresed will be greatly rewarded. Since when is that wrong?
2. "Where in the New Testament does
it say to kill people?"
There's tons in the New Testament http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt.html
But, probably, like the Quran, those verses are taken way out of context.
3. "How many Christians have you seen killing
people while quoting the Bible?"
Quite a bit, the Freedomites, the KKK, God's Army, Eric Rudolph th
and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression."
It seems pretty logical to me, if someone is oppressing you then fight them, and only them until they stop.
Again, 4:73-4:76 says, "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee
ore tumult or oppression upon you"
Keep fighting until you've stopped being persecuted. It also goes on to say that if they stop oppresing you then you stop fighting. To 8:65, when it was clear the Quaraysh (The tribe oppressing the muslims) wouldn't hold back, and that war was soon to break out. It was sure that the Muslims would be outnumbered (and they were 3:1), so God commanded Muhammad to rouse their spirits. What's wrong with 2:193 "And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and
1. I guess Sura 9:5 doesnt exsist or 9:29 or 9:123 or 9:14, 8:39, 8:65,
2:193, 4:73-76, 4:84, the list goes on"
9:5 has to do with people who broke peace treaties with the Muslims and started attacking them first, the verse before that even emphasizes that even though one peoples may brake a treaty, don't go to war with people who still have treaties. Same deal with the other ones in the same chapter. The verses preceding them show it. I don't see what's wrong with it, "And fight them on until there is no
To the debate at the begginning of the comments of the difference between Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Scientology. (If anyone is actually reading, I'll give my two cents). People don't die inconspicuosly at hotels in Mecca or the Vatican. People don't die giving confession (in relation to the "help" Lisa recieved after she was in that accident), and you don't have to pay a dime to go to a Church or Mosque or Temple (except for gas), or to pay for a confetion or mass or prayer.
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