Also
"how can something exists outside time space and matter yet still effect
time space and matter?"
Is a good point. We cannot describe this 'God' beyond immaterial. If we cannot define this entity at all, appearance or ability, then it is impossible to label it and furthermore, pointless to argue, especially if you want to attach it to a religion.
Good on ya, Whetstone. I think this is the worst place to expound your philosophical theories but you did it well and without arrogance. 4 for a decent debate and stylish presentation, no 5 though because this is YTMND and there was no funny besides Max. Take your arguments to the right places.
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