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madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

6:27:41 PM CDT

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I apologize in advance for having shotty timing after the middle, but I wanted to get this as part of the contest. I felt that getting a release by the deadline was more important than perfect slide timing. My audio program uses minutes and seconds, but Fireworks is more confusing - it works with hundredths of a second.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

April 29th, 2014

11:05:47 PM CDT

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Fireworks is not to be used as a web browser, you aardvark feltching, Barry Manilow of a "digital media designer," kitten shit smearing, public display of Washington Generals-esque verbal diarrhea.

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

7:21:54 PM CDT

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Also, I ran out of time before I could put a screenshot of this up for cross browser animated PNGs:
http://ajaxian.com/archives/apng-class-get-apng-going-on-all-browsers

demo page:
http://devthought.com/wp-content/projects/mootools/APNG/Demo/

GaryGnu

April 29th, 2014

7:25:15 PM CDT

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Reading directly from the power point word for word - 10

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

7:25:31 PM CDT

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finally, I also wanted to mention editable comments and deletable comments. sorry for not including that.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

April 29th, 2014

11:08:34 PM CDT

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Everyone is really fucking sad that you forgot to include those points, you retinal sandpaper of a post-birth abortion posing as a walking, talking, hamster dick tickling ass rambler.

Famery-Gai

April 30th, 2014

3:16:31 PM CDT

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mmmm, edible comments

Fluk3

April 29th, 2014

7:29:36 PM CDT

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I harped on PMGs for a while, you may recall. I tried many png editors with very limited results for creating significant animations of any complexity. As for the file size they generate, we might as well support html video with alpha channels or something similar.

I always bitch about "ignore/block users comments" not functioning properly.

I think the only moderation we need is detecting and eliminating alt accounts specifically used to skew voting results unfairly (1 vote per person). Otherwise, for any other duties, any moderator is subject to personal bias and is unlikely to be truly neutral/fair despite their ytmnd birthdate or presumed professionalism. Unless maybe they were elected (sans alt votes).

I think there should be a limit to how many 1 votes a user can post within a timeframe - like the time limit for creating multiple sites. Trolling should be made a little harder to do en masse.

I never understood the criteria that made one a featured user, exactly, and why they were eliminated.

What do you use Fireworks for? I hear its better for web development (multi-page, stylesheets, etc.) even though it is discontinued and no longer developed by Adobe.

Fluk3

April 29th, 2014

7:30:15 PM CDT

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PNGs*

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

7:45:34 PM CDT

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I see animated png's as what animated gifs should really be in the year 2014 -> with alpha channels and 24 bit color instead of 8 bit.

I have actually done a good amount of work with video. The only way you can have alpha channels in them is if you used quicktime AND you have either the 'Animation' or the 'PNG' codec. Those output files also tend to be large.

Besides, I see animated PNG's as consistent with the original vision of YTMND whereas video is not.

Max already has ways of finding alt voters, as he has said to me, but he seems quite slow to punish. I was proposing it be done by the individual users instead. Besides, there are the kinds of trolls who do not technically violate YTMND standards, but they are just plain annoying any way. Or they do violate the standards, but they do so in ways which are hard to prove.

For example, there are those which go around, following others obsessively, constantly pumping insult comments at them. No one has to put up with that on facebook - there is a block button. I think that such a feature is a reasonable request for here.

Fireworks (even by Adobe's admissions) was meant for website building back in 1998. So the image slicing and image text techniques gradually grew less and less relevant since then, when you factor in more modern CSS 2 and CSS 3, along with HTML5.

Fireworks was also not the best animation - Adobe suggests Flash. Adobe also suggests Dreamweaver for most website editing. That is unless you are like me and rely on online site/content editors like with Wordpress and Drupal.

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

7:50:42 PM CDT

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"I was proposing it be done by the individual users instead."

by this, I mean that individual users would only be able to secretly ignore some people, entirely block really nasty ones like on facebook or youtube and also report users anonymously in the same manner that one can currently do with sites.

Fluk3

April 29th, 2014

8:19:26 PM CDT

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While blocking comments is useful and desirable, I am more interested in preventing unfair voting practices. If one person has 10 or 20 alts then they can make sure your site is off the front Page more quickly and does not receive a fair rating based on the idea of one vote per person.

If an alt downvote campaign hits your site for whatever reason then fewer people will end up seeing it. I think this is much worse in all fairness than receiving a lot of negative comments.

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

8:32:02 PM CDT

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I am in favor of both. Had I had more time, I probably would have discussed what you favor as well.

Fluk3

April 29th, 2014

8:36:41 PM CDT

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I'm just bummed that Photoshop can't export animated PNGs.

I am being asked by my clients to produce more video work. I have mostly been using low-end consumer stuff like iMovie which actually works pretty well for simple things. But for animated logos and so forth
I use my 3d app or Photoshop CS 6 which has some decent video editing features similar to Premire. I know how to use after effects and premier but I don't own them and I refuse to subscribe to creative cloud. I'm considering final cut pro or avid but I'd love to find a video editor that exports to PNG animations too. so far I haven't found a solution.

I'm a print guy and I've been avoiding web for years but I've read some pretty good write ups on smashing.com about using fireworks for web development and user interface design despite its age. I want to avoid the template based apps like Wordpress Dupral. I'd use Muse or dream weaver maybe except for the Adobe subscription bullshit.

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

8:48:59 PM CDT

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To be clear, I don't even think Fireworks is meant to properly export a usable APNG (at least not without plugins for Fireworks). The fireworks file you do work with IS a PNG file, but I do not know if it would act like a proper animated PNG in the browser without a plugin for Fireworks. I could be wrong, though.

What I would do is if I were inclined would be to use a dedicated piece of software that could handle individual still frames, including png files with alpha transparency, treat them like an image sequence, turn it into animation with playback preview, then export a valid APNG.

I might do this at some point, even if Max does not add on canvas features for animated png files.

I find it interesting that someone in the year 2014 can make all their money from print without any dabbling in to web. Kudos to you.

Also, I think wordpress can actually be pretty flexible with design if you know how to edit wordpress templates.

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

8:50:59 PM CDT

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finally, I don't think you technically need to join the creative cloud for adobe software. So long as you do not mind going back a version or two. I still think you could get those on amazon or ebay.

Fluk3

April 30th, 2014

10:21:23 AM CDT

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Yes, print has been in decline for a while. Making a living as a freelancer is hard enough.

Packaging is a big part of my work now - everyone who sells physical items still needs cartons and labels. One advantage I have is that all the new people in the design field know zilch about cmyk + spot or complex finishings. So there is less competition for me.

I got my cs6 on ebay and I plan to use it forever unless Adobe reverses their licensing. The print apps are feature complete and mature and I'll never miss anything new. I'll virtualize CS6 if future OS upgrades break it.

If I switched to mobile/web, as those technologies advance, I'm afraid I might be left out if I were to rely on feature frozen cs6 web apps.

When it comes to web, I hate code, I'm lazy and don't want to learn it. But I also know most wysiwyg editors are flawed in some regards that would require some knowhow to fix or optimize. With print, I never have to edit postscript, so I'm spoiled compared to people who deal with html.

I've been waiting for web authoring to mature and solidify so that what I choose to learn won't change for a long time. But I don't see that happening yet.

I also hate how when you design a web page, clients always expect unlimited revisions and sometimes unexpected features like database integration or e-commerce, or layout responsiveness.

I'll have to jump in some day - I get a lot of requests.

madDogSoldier

April 30th, 2014

12:50:26 PM CDT

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I extend my simultaneous sympathy and admiration.

I also empathize regarding the issue of constant changes for websites of clients. Thankfully, I just have to do with strict coding and programming issues, I personally do not deal directly with clients right now.

The good side of making changes for the web is that the only cost for you as the creative is time. No need to create printed proofs or samples.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

April 30th, 2014

10:34:35 PM CDT

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"the creative'

Dear fucking god you are such a tool.

madDogSoldier

May 3rd, 2014

5:48:28 AM CDT

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The joke is that you devote your time to following me.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

April 29th, 2014

11:16:55 PM CDT

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Every single comment you make is a troll against the belief in [b]BOTH[/b] intelligent design [b]AND[/b] evolution, as you are like some modern day fossilized cave humping monkey-man who, with every single syllable uttered, lowers the collective global IQ an entire percentage point.

Also, brag more about how yo and max are, you know, like buds and shit. You sad sack bunion on the ass-foot of life.

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

7:56:24 PM CDT

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I also forgot to answer your last question, what do I use Fireworks for: I use it to mostly generate animted gif files. I feel like it is better at this than photoshop.

amindlessidiot

April 29th, 2014

9:24:15 PM CDT

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Why did you record yourself reading half of this and use a TTS voice for the rest?

madDogSoldier

April 29th, 2014

9:44:44 PM CDT

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1. i see a lot of presentations do this sort of thing, with an introducer voice and also a main presenter voice.
2. relying on more TTS was easier to make the audio with the limited time i was able to work with. with human dialogue, you have to do multiple takes for decent quality, then still edit and filter afterwards.
3. my voice is the kind which often needs work. i would have needed too much time

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

April 29th, 2014

10:59:31 PM CDT

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Because mid-voiceover recording session, he swallowed his own cock and got all choked up on the three inches of dog snausage stuck in his throat.

DarthWang

April 29th, 2014

9:39:51 PM CDT

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Agree except for featured users

mormonator

April 29th, 2014

9:40:50 PM CDT

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We already got our prize from you. Hearing your sweet honey suckle voice just after your morning burrito.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

April 29th, 2014

10:56:21 PM CDT

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Just how much gas did you huff before you sat down to make this piece of shit you tard ball licking cock wart of a "low information voter," one night stand accident, safety school for shitty art students GED waving, vaginal fart sniffing, ass pimple popping, dead dog carcass fucker?!!

Really, you're such a fuckton of bullshit that the FBI is tracking you like a Kingman, AZ, fertilizer bomb.

prairiedogeric10

April 30th, 2014

12:43:16 AM CDT

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http://mod2011.ytmnd.com/

madDogSoldier

April 30th, 2014

9:22:03 AM CDT

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Sorry, Eric, but if Max had any interest in you being a mod, he would have made you one by now. Though I think a user election might be helpful.

TheHypnotist

May 1st, 2014

6:54:20 AM CDT

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This would have been great like four years ago.

madDogSoldier

May 1st, 2014

7:08:36 AM CDT

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Your'e preaching to the choir. Now go tell max.

TheHypnotist

May 1st, 2014

8:27:06 AM CDT

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That's not what I mean. What I mean is these suggestions you're making are useless now.

Blocked users? Better moderation? Featured users? These are things that work when there's a large number of people, not the dwindling list that we have today.

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PewdiePiesSlave

May 1st, 2014

9:16:12 AM CDT

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ha! I agree! Give power to the Community members! plus methods to ignore those stupid cyberbullies... I know Pewdie Pie would approve :). Max, I'm all in on this! Please implement :D!!!!

Godot

May 2nd, 2014

12:36:07 PM CDT

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So, why should Max bring featured faggots back, again? What possible positives did they add to this website and its community? God, gotta love the compelling arguments behind this one, or lack thereof.

madDogSoldier

May 2nd, 2014

1:04:52 PM CDT

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Well, I know a lot of people did not like that aspect of the site, so I am sympathetic. But I feel like they would be a net benefit because people would have a bigger incentive to make better sites. I think trophies make competition more intense.

DarthWang

May 2nd, 2014

2:38:34 PM CDT

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Except featured user sites were never any better than other sites, just frontpagefaggery of the type fourestcondom always churns out, and any FU who dared to make anything different from that (as in, actual funny sites) would quickly be demoted by Der Fuhrer Macks. It encouraged the worst kind of elitism and opinion myopia.

CoolCatCitizen

May 2nd, 2014

5:01:58 PM CDT

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I think every site should automatically be given five five star ratings to couter balance all the downvotes from trolls.

madDogSoldier

May 2nd, 2014

6:25:19 PM CDT

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I don't think I agree. I think suspected alt upvoters/downvoters should be reported.

Personally, if this was my site, what I would do is limit one vote per site per IP address.

But if they are not alt voting, then I think people are entitled to their opinions.

Although you proposed what you proposed, you did not seem to follow your own advice on my site here.

dam

May 3rd, 2014

8:19:24 AM CDT

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Tonight I dine on turtle soup.

ldrancer

May 4th, 2014

4:56:55 PM CDT

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yes

ldrancer

May 4th, 2014

4:57:28 PM CDT

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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

ldrancer

May 4th, 2014

5:09:18 PM CDT

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i like this idea how you guys started talking and doing the more stupidest ideas.

by the way this contest is stupid. a, its not my site. b, i dont care. c, make your own money whorebags. and D FUCK YOU ALL. your all greedy bastards. so go fuck yoursleves, have your gay gangbangs elsewhere. godamn queers. see as such nobody cares. this site will go to oblivion in its current thing. so i made my site. which i thinkj is the best. and is laughing at this site. altogether which is all ican do. since max decided to get greedy with that section anyway. last time. so fuck this. this site reading, contest bullshit thing is stupid.

ldrancer

May 4th, 2014

5:11:13 PM CDT

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here since everybody is greedy fucks. paypal me money, is the best idea. to me. ldrancer @ that timewarner email adress with wile e coyote and .. (dot) com

ldrancer

May 4th, 2014

5:13:23 PM CDT

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whyd i do that for. im stupid. oh well. fuck. that was a stupid idea. oh yea like this site. lets contest this site as compared to other sites. sites not ciabook run shit. not little perverts.

madDogSoldier

May 5th, 2014

8:37:21 AM CDT

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define "greed"

ldrancer

May 6th, 2014

12:15:31 AM CDT

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microsoft. you being greedy asking me this fucking question. like beign on the tinernet and knowing that dont like get it. if you jumped on the internet with your fucking phone nad your told your not allowed on it, noone cares what you think. and then you think that somehow you deserve some shit out of it? your greedy from everyone else.

i can connect, toany computer i want to. i can ping and see if i get a pong from anyone. i pay 50 dollars a month for this shit. then you want to bitch, think yo8u can copyright. and whatever else stupid shit. spy like google does with search spiders .they scan ports of peoples computers, internet web page ports. and what do they do? they sell the ads and sell people gonig on to it, now fuck everybody over.

if i done that, my isp would shut me down. so FUCK YOU.

ldrancer

May 6th, 2014

12:19:51 AM CDT

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you asking me these questions whenyou know the godamn answers to them. people greedily votuing you up shit at all, when this site has no content, ooh what butt did you poop that out of? cuase its stupid. has been repeated. started from a bad idea. noone ever agreed with it. but what do you do? repeat it.

its like the simpsons sites. who fucking cares, that show was over with 20 years ago. and until you stop repeating it it wont go away, then itll never get good. so go fuck yourself, NObody has to see your stupid shit, so SHUTUP.

getting on the internetm with other people, then posting your vain sites, like ciabook. and ytmnd. how is it different? how has it ever been different? oh yea, it contains a few things that people can put to make something funny. alright, thats good. but noone cares about YOUR ideas. at least be original or funny make a statment dont suck dick, get a brain and not a butt taht you shit out of. asshole. FUCKK

madDogSoldier

May 6th, 2014

9:05:49 AM CDT

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It's not a stupid question. Because "greed" is a convenient slander for whenever someone wants to get on some moral high horse.

The problem is that "greed" means different things to different people. Along with it's stepbrother word "selfish".

For example, some people say if you want to pay less taxes, that you are greedy. No rational explanation is provided for what the proper threshold for non greed on that is.

Others claim that government employees are "greedy", because they are typically much harder to fire than private sector employees. Government employees also tend to get better benefits and are more likely to be unionized than a private sector employee.

Others still define greed as simply making more money than they do.

One of the ways my dad uses "selfish" is regards to those who smoke weed. What he fails to consider is that people who drink or enjoy any other form of pleasure can be accused of selfishness as well.

So, I almost never see a consistent definition of "greed" or "selfishness". Therefore, I just roll my eyes whenever someone uses these words.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

May 7th, 2014

1:39:42 AM CDT

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Sooooo...accepting a flame war challenge from my pit bull is a waste of your precious time but arguing via entire paragraphs with the fucking Ritalin snorter above is time well spent?!

Congrats, I believe it is entirely the case that the two biggest fucking morons ever to connect to the internet have finally found each other. Tim Berners-Lee and Al Gore can sleep well tonight knowing that all the decades of their hard work have finally paid off.

(by the way, you crippled gerbil dick of a mental midget, there is a difference between a definition, or denotation, and usage, or connotation, in language. What you or your stupid fucking father or some angry Randian commenter posts in one of your tard-vacuum forum comment sections in no way changes what the words "selfish" or "greed" mean. How different people utilize language merely illustrates whether or not they have a fucking clue. And you, pussyPussyPussy, have not the slightest of clues)

madDogSoldier

May 7th, 2014

5:24:24 AM CDT

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I'm not trying to have a flame war with this guy.

I am actually trying to see if I can help this guy, because I clearly know things have been rough for him.

Also, stop replying to me. It is nothing but you trying to one up me at my expense.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

May 7th, 2014

4:56:57 PM CDT

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You're such a humanitarian! I think you were really starting to make a breakthrough with him when you said "[i]All you do is get hysterical and hurl insults[/i]." That, I'm sure, really spoke to him, you squirrel fucker.

Also, I'm not trying to one up you, I'm trying to "help" you--just like you're always trying to help other people--to understand what a stupid, moronic, mentally retarded, dunderheaded, thick skulled, ugly, unscrupulous, dim witted, delusional, bongwater soaked Muppet of an anal wart on the ass of ignorance you are.

That and I really want to watch my pit bull wipe down the tables with you in a flame war because, even though you think you're some kind of internet intellectual font of wisdom, even-handed sincerity, and straight-talking common sense while my pit bull is afraid of baths and thinks that the vacuum cleaner is possessed by a demon spawn of the Dog God of Chaos, he'd totally crush you in one round, even if you got to take the first shot.

madDogSoldier

May 7th, 2014

5:13:15 PM CDT

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Your'e right, I am stupid. Stupid for feeding trolls like you. But I suppose I should treat both him and you like I treat ranting homeless guys on the street - by ignoring them.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

May 7th, 2014

5:21:05 PM CDT

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[b]"Your'e right, I am stupid." [/b]

[u]- madDogSoldier May 7th, 2014 5:13:15 PM CDT[/u]

Let it be known to all across YTMND that, finally, after half a decade here, you said something I agree with.

madDogSoldier

May 13th, 2014

1:55:11 PM CDT

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- Let me know when you want your dog to challenge me. I'm game.

- You blast me for incorrectly using the word "selfish". But if you take a closer look to any post of mine here, you will notice that I have not in fact, attempted to redefine the word.

I just want to point out that different dictionaries have subtly differing ways to define "selfishness", ranging from caring about yourself primary to caring about yourself at the expense of others.

I simply requested ldrancer that he explain further what he meant by the use of the word. I still think he was just trying to puff his chest with moral authority.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

May 14th, 2014

11:24:10 AM CDT

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Like I said, you get the 1st shot because I'm so confident he'll mop the floor with you, there'll be no need for a Round 2. Because he knows so much about you, I'll provide some background facts to help even the playing field:

- he's about 3 yrs old but still looks & acts like a puppy
- he was about 25lbs when we got him, had nasty skin patches, and all kinds of worms and parasites; now he's about 40lbs and still has dandruff
- he's got angular limb disorder in his front legs, so he stands funny and walks sort of like a sidewinder
- because his front legs are shorter than his back legs, he's a bit brokebacked, with his butt higher than his shoulders and a curved spine
- he was rescued in So. Carolina and brought up north with a bunch of pits and, because he looked disabled, everyone thought he'd been abused (he hadn't; he was just funny looking), that he couldn't walk more than a block or so, and that he couldn't do stairs
- he's deathly afraid of water in all forms from puddles to rain to baths to the beach and he thinks we control the weather so he gets mad at me when it rains
- he's scared of folding laundry, the noise our sound system makes when I plug something in (laptop, Ipod, etc) to the mini jack cable, and thinks the salad spinner and vacuum cleaner are tools of Satan
- unlike many dogs that pick up on their owners' anxieties, he's not racist. we're the only honkies on our block and he's totally friendly with everyone, from the black guys who sit in their cars and smoke blunts all night to the Nepalese and Sudanese kids who are terrified of him because they likely had some horrifying experience with dogs back in their countries--which leads us to assume that he was raised in a black household down in SC
- he growls at men with clipboards

That should give you a start, so take your best shot in either site (recommended for comedic effect) or comment form. And may the best dog win!!!

madDogSoldier

May 18th, 2014

1:13:47 AM CDT

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I am sorry, but I don't have the heart to pick on a pooch like this. I think the disabled have enough people giving them shit, not to mention the other hardships they often have to endure. I literally have nothing to make fun of here.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

May 20th, 2014

9:35:04 PM CDT

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Well, you should know that he'd never show you that kind of mercy. He is a pit bull, after all. In fact, he spent the evening strutting about the house shouting "WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?!!" and schmopping about how he finally "shut up that retarded fucking moron you're always arguing with on the internet." Then he squatted, licked himself, and dragged his ass across the carpet to drive the point home.

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

June 2nd, 2014

12:11:08 PM CDT

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Seriously, he's been insufferable for weeks now. Thanks, Obama.

November 12th, 2014

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November 19th, 2014

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What don't you like about it?

woman

November 26th, 2014

1:05:09 AM CST

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Everything (sorry).

madDogSoldier

November 26th, 2014

8:28:54 AM CST

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But I thought you liked at least my anti-trolling proposals.

madDogSoldier

November 25th, 2014

12:42:52 PM CST

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You realize that merely assigning 1 star without any sort of argument or critique helps you in no way at all? (unless your goal is to inspire resentment from your targets)

All you are doing is saying "[b]I don't like it![/b]" Why should this person change their ways? How do they know that your opinion has any merit? Why should they not release similar content in the future?

FormerlyFeaturedFagg

November 25th, 2014

3:32:21 PM CST

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Oh hey, look! It's that retarded fucking moron who spent six weeks studying Latin for his vacation in Costa Rica!

Ochobobo

February 9th, 2015

10:58:30 AM CST

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I think instead of a Featured Users section I'd prefer a section to see sites made by friends. I mean, a featured users section is so you can hopefully see new good sites by people who usually make good sites, but if it's good it'll already be in Up and Coming/Top Rated. That makes it pretty unnecessary, IMO.

A section for sites made by friends lets you keep up with your favorite ymndters

madDogSoldier

February 9th, 2015

1:35:26 PM CST

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I like that idea.

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October 18th, 2017

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