Site about Umfuld
Created on: July 20th, 2009
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Vote metrics:
| rating | total votes | favorites | comments |
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| (4.04) | 57 | 1 | 94 |
View metrics:
| today | yesterday | this week | this month | all time |
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| 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3,464 |
Inbound links:
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| 46 | https://www.bing.com |
| 5 | http://www.google.com.hk |
| 3 | http://216.18.188.175:80 |
| 1 | http://www.google.com |
| 1 | http://ytmnsfw.com/keywords/Stephens |
It is possible to find some correlation, but then again, I could also draw an as likely conclusion that you met each other in real life, hit it off, and now you are friends who defend each other on the internet. This was all drawn from the fact that he finally agreed with one of your points. Does it make it true? Absolutely not.
Sometimes its better, that's why I argue with you. If it wasn't fun, I wouldn't bother. Do you think that just because something logically makes sense, it is the only possible answer? Alien existence makes sense, but we have no proof, so no one claims to know extraterrestial life exists. Sure if I was not me, and I was a bit of a conspiratorial paranoid like you, I could see the connection, but that just isn't the reality, sorry. I don't upvote people expecting fives in return. That is the truth.
there are so many reasons why the site has sucked lately, and no one can pretend to know all of them. youre acting like its all wisdums fault, lol. look at half the crap that gets upvoted, and historically been upvoted, and tell me the average, non-ytmnd internet user would even understand it let alone think it was funny content. and gee, we have a site owner that thinks its a joke to post gay thug dating ads, who began his internet career as a troll (not negative criticism max) but gee, maybe the...
...internet community at large got tired of 4 mb low quality gifs of the same sh*t over and over. i think you both offer great content. i really dont think anyone can point fingers. wisdums's damage is a much as yours, with all the negativity, alienation and fingerpointing you generate. the thing is niether of you really put in that much of a dent. i used to cheat too. now i dont. who cares.
Having a large number of high votes doesn't hurt the site as long as you discriminate, and I do. If a site I think is crappy makes Up and coming I will vote it down. I barely touch recently created where most of the sh*tty sites dwell...and that is why the average is so high. Come on man, we've been through this before.
Well, yes, but then again, I am simply arguing against Umfuld's points. It is really simply gr33n. You think its ridiculous right? well, that is exactly how I view umful's arugment that I circle jerk just because I have a high average. It's ridiculous just like it is ridiculous to insinuate that you are good buddies now just because you agreed with umfuld on a couple of things.
"Look at MrSinistar's last 20 sites. Are there ANY you didn't vote 5 on? How many did you vote 5 on more than once? How many people for you is that true for?" 1. About 5. And that is mostly because I don't usually vote on the ones that suck. 2. I think there was that one time. 3. I only voted with the account for about two months and they were mostly random sites (except for the sinistar site I fav'd), and the majority of tourney sites. I think that's it. I don't really memorize these things to be honest.
Logic is subjective. Facts are objective. Can you really have it any other way? I just vote high most of the time, and that goes for everyone. That's it. It's not some grand conspiracy. "What other explanation is there for not giving out a wide range of votes other than fear of reprisals" I don't like sh*tting on other people's work. Remember, I wasn't the one that decided that I should be the beacon of objectivity and morality. Once I got popular everyone just expected me to change and be that guy.
And now that a lot of other users have left, and the rest ignore you, the blame now lays squarely at my feet. This is not just some martyr complex--I never signed up to be Jesus. The fact that I am the center of anything just proves how badly off ytmnd really is. I wanted attention, but I was never trying to be a leader or a mentor or whatever. Really at this point, its all nitpicking because only more users could save ytmnd, not vote squandering. Everyone is going to have biases, you can't change that.
I know how it happened, but I didn't choose it. I got pushed in that direction, because it seems like you can never be somewhere in between on ytmnd. Everything is black and white. You either have to be perfect, or you are a sham. I always wanted to be an intermediate level of popular. Maybe I could have handled it if ytmnd was still thriving, but I can't when there is so very little incentive to be.
"I refuse to believe that you're so stupid that you think that all these people 5 you because they like you sites." And this is why you will never understand my position. You are just too damn arrogant. Since you don't like my sites, you figure no one else really likes them, and the ratings must be ill-gotten. People have different tastes. Do you honestly think lickitwellhiem was lying just so he could get more 5s? People gravitate towards each other because we are a community, we create cliques.
"Cyclical, reality-denying comments" The results are cyclical because the arguments against me are cyclical. And I guess I will go and downvote some sites if you really want gr33nscr33n. But it has nothing to do with ratings. And its okay that I am a running joke. I was willing to sacrifice some of my internet dignity when I decided to argue with you repeatedly. It's all for the sake of having fun, after all. I think their energy would be better spent coming back and making sites though.
"There is nothing arrogant in someone having a negative opinion of someone else's ::cough:: art." There is a difference between having a negative opinion, and claiming that it is a fact that my sites are not any good. Your logic consists of this: "wisdumcube's sites suck but they get high ratings, therefore the rating are fraudulent." Here is the logic surrounding a non-arrogant opinion: "wisdumcube's sites suck, but they get high ratings, therefore I must have different tastes in humor/'interest in art".
Sorry, Hank. I liked it. I probably shouldn't have because it uses koen and DBZ, but I liked it. Also, gr33nscr33n, there is nothing crazy about defending your worth as a ytmnder. If all I need to do to solidify my position is downvote sites for a week, then the opposing argument wasn't strongly conclusive in the first place.
"You have almost no natural comedic ability. In speech, behavior and certainly not in sites. It's a comedy site + You aren't funny." All of these points are debatable, yet you structure your argument as if they are fact. ytmnd is a place for creativity, not just humor. I very rarely create content for the sake of humor. Most that exist already existed in its current context before I made the site. I figured that since we had fearcondom and Ochobobo,etc etc, I shouldn't try, and instead find my own niche.
I can't debate with humor. You know what, I am going to try something. I am not going to make a site unless I think it is funny for a while, happy? I'll really try again, just for a little while at least. I'll invest more time in downvoting sites. And then whatever happens after that happens. I have to show you why I argue the position I do, and I'm sorry that I put so much energy into long text arguments instead of sitemaking, and voting. The only thing that could further this discussion is action.
"All those words - how is it you didn't have a single f*cking point? Is there any chance you'll just realize that and kill yourself? No. That joy will not be mine." You are a sad sad little man child. You can't even keep your emotions under control. I'm doing this to see what gr33nscr33n thinks. He is reasonable.
…but I am also friends with Wisdum, MrSinistar, dmaz, etc. so whatever circle-jerk advantage you think they get, to some extent I get it too. Yet, on average, my sites are less popular than theirs. I have no illusions: my sites do worse because they are worse. They are not as catchy or imaginative or skilful. End of story.
The "circle-jerk" counts for very little. Most of Wisdumcube's sites get over 100 votes. When it comes to that level of exposure, a half-dozen predestined 5s does not introduce very much bias into a site's score. Most of the people who vote on Wisdum's sites really genuinely like his sites. He's GOOD. (Not all the time, but more often than me.)
You are free to have different tastes, and of course you should always be free to speak your mind. However, de gustibus non disputandum est. There is no arguing about taste. And I think you're trying to hijack what is at heart a disagreement about taste and using it, instead, as a vehicle for whatever insults and accusations you feel like hurling at my friends from time to time. It's pretty obvious that you're not interested in entertaining the possibility that they ever merit their popularity.
"cyclical, reality-denying comments" The results are cyclical because the arguments against me are cyclical. And I guess I will go and downvote some sites if you really want gr33nscr33n. It's has nothing to do with ratings. And its okay that I am a running joke. I was willing to sacrifice some of my internet dignity when I decided to argue with you repeatedly. It's all for the sake of having fun, after all. I think their energy would be better spent coming back and making sites though.
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