June 6th Never Forget...
Created on: June 6th, 2007
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Who is WE? You think the USA would have been invaded by Hitler to take over our land? LMAO. The war WAS necessary to insure freedom lived on on that side of the planet. Just as the War on Terrorism. And just like with WW2, everyone is opposed to getting involved. 9/11 unfortunately was not enough to be the Pearl Harbor. We must wait for something bigger before all the pacifists realize the threat we face.
People opposed the Americans in the 'War on Terror' because you didn't take the fight to the terrorists. The Iraqis didn't do it, remember? An unjust war, the 21st Century Vietnam. Saddam was not enough of an excuse for the damage and death dealt to that nation. And Hitler would've come for America at some point, had they not been beaten and conquered Europe. You seem to overestimate the US, just like we Brits did until after WWII. Well, both our nations have made a mess this century in the Middle East...
Hitler's ambitions didn't reach past the Fatherland. As with Iraq not "doing it" Saddam certainly was not any help when he defied all our ceasefire agreements and denied any entrance by inspectors. It doesn't matter what he was hiding, if anything, he refused inspection and he continually fired upon our jets. How can you wage a war against extremist islam when and ignore a defiant muslim dictator who has shown willingness to help any enemy of the US? Criticize post invasion fine, but Sadam had to be removed
Learn your history. We got involved in WWII because the Japanese attacked us, and we helped in Europe so that after Hitler got sacked they would help us in Japan, and to protect trade. We didn't care about the Holocaust, most people ignored it. A lot of people were in it because it was the right thing to do, more people were in it because they got a draft card, and a few people were cheering from the sidelines in their suits. It was certainly more noble than the fiasco that is Iraq, but war is never holy.
WWII was a good monday morning quarterback war because there happened to be a holocaust and technology had advanced to the point where it was not a repeat of WWI (which would have been a disaster both in reality and from not learning from the mistakes of the past). Also, wars have happened for thousands of years. "Getting along" is a relatively new and secular idea (just ask the Zionists... they want to reenact doomsday fantasies from a 2000 year old book with 2000 AD technology).
Korf, I would not call myself a patriotic person, in fact, I'm quite liberal when it comes to politics. I hate war. Who really does like war? Honestly. But when someone takes over the Eastern world, which Hitler could have done, this puts the entire western hemisphere in jeopardy as well. If Japan took over China, they could have attacked us. And There would be more people against us. The Iraq war is a pointless war, and to compare it to any other war is, as Carib put it, "spitting on WWII veterans' graves.
i went to the allied graveyard in normandy, the place is unreal, it's right next to the beachwhere the sh*t went down. there are some nazi bunkers they preserved as is too, along with huge, 20 foot deep grassed-over craters with car-sized chunks of concrete stickin outta the ground where some bunkers got blown out/up. Go there, the town is mad cheap, and THOSE french folks are really nice, only the parisians are buttholes. At night we got tons of wine and fireworks. there r museums and guided tours too.
OMG Secret Nazi Enemy! Anyway, yeah... Those were the days in which America fought a real war. Also don't forget Soviet Russia, they did at least equally a much as America did - in fact, if it wasn't for them, the entire Nazi-regime would be defending the coast, which would've made victory a lot harder to achieve. It's the other way around as well - if it wasn't for the Allied forces, Soviet Russia would've been in trouble as well. The Nazis were stupid enough to provoke everyone at once.
Good point EwoudCP, although I think it's safe to assume that the Soviets did it for their own self interests. Also, Stalin at that time was just as guilty if not worse than Hitler when it came to committing acts of genocide, atrocities and war crimes. But I do agree with you that fundamentally the allies probably would not have won that war had the Soviets not gotten involved. The bottom line is that this was as you say a "real" war for just causes and seriously changed the course of history.
It looks like YOU forgot that DDay is but a trifle because June 6th is my mom's birthday. Also, dramatic music + unnecessary sound effects + propaganda = what? We're fighting for freedom loving people (unless you happen to be Japanese in which case we don't love your freedom quite so much). There are no "good guys" in war, just people who kill less people unnecessarily and the other guys.
Dude, honestly, even after having about 8 beers in me, I can honestly say I don't give a rats *ss if I got a 1 on this site. I live in DC, I've been to the WWII memorial at least 5 times. I stop to talk to any WWII veteran I possibly can. I've read almost every single one of Steven Ambrose books. I totally respect WWII and the cause behind it. I don't support the Iraq war. WWII means a lot to me, my grandfather was in it. I think it was the last true war that will ever be faught.
EVERYONE LISTEN TO ME... now if only those guys had ytmnd back then, they wouldnt be fighting and killing each other. maybe hitler would have enjoyed quite a few laughs from watching the secret nazi tmnds.. who knows. not only i will not remember d-day, but i will feel sad for living in a world full of pathetic people who live for greed and power. the f*ck is wrong with some people?? dont try to argue me by the way, i am always right.
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