CATCH THAT IMUS!
Created on: April 14th, 2007
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Making long comments makes it look like that you are professionally proving a point and that we are trying to make another whetstone who killed the most ppl ytmnd scene, or the simple fact that this is so in deep in real life that it just has to have such vigorous and such entertaining comments that people can reply to.
Its not the kind of comment he said, its really the person. I think he knew what he was doing. Its just the question is why did he do it? Saying stuff doesnt necessiarly mean something, its how you use it. And for Imus, its really strange why he decided on a radio program, to say that stuff. I think he knew the consequences, its just.. why did he do it?
Dude I agree. I just hate how the black community acts you know.....It's hypocritical. Basically the whole "we can make fun of whites, asians, etc. but you can't make fun of us." It's a load of sh*t. And worse the media always caves in even though there is worse out there that people got away with (*cough*Rosie cow *cough*) like Sitsu said.
first off, Sharpton DOES actively attack rappers. but he's rightfully ignored. theres a difference between whats said publicly and whats put on a record that you have to actually seek out. Same as the standard for TV violence is different from a horror film. I could give two sh*ts personally if every channel on TV had a 4 hour block of porno and violence, but that’s not the way things are, so your comparison is apples/oranges to me. As for Imus, he was clearly joking with no intent to racially offend, apparently noone told him the 'rules' that you cant 'act black' to that level on the air (unless like Howard Stern you've got a black sidekick laughing at it to prove to everyone that its okay?). I also think if the Richards incident wasn’t so fresh people wouldn’t have pushed back at him at the level they did, that got treated like a mini Racial 9/11 and now anything reminding of it gets treated with the same paranoid empty headed shock.
Are you kidding me? This is CBS, that little15 million they get from Imus is chump change to them. What would have been worse for CBS is if they were looked at as harboring a racist starting an even bigger sh*t storm for themselves. They did what a smart business do and got rid of the problem. Don't give me this crap about hip-hop; do you really think fictitious rap songs about hoes and thugs carry the same weight as a public statement that people found racist and insensitive? Come on..
Just because they're both public doesn't mean they carry the same weight, rap lyrics =/= racist comment. Why are you not getting this? If you were comparing a radio personality of another race that says racist things and gets away with it THEN you'd be on to something. As far as I'm concern this rap junk is a reach at best. These are 2 different levels of seriousness that should be handled as such...
Antwan has a good point. Rap lyrics and what is publicly said on radio are apples and oranges. I dont care how many kids do listen to rap, lots of kids also watch horror movies and listen to metal. Someone complaining about (supposedly) public racists statements is no more responsible for attacking rap than someone against wife beating is responsible for attacking James Bond films. a gun hating mommy is not responsible for making sure "Smokin Aces". Art =/= reality, and even when it is meant to reflect reality - context is everything, and it goes both ways. Calling Tarantino a racist for saying "n*gg*r" in his own film is as ridiculous to me as taking "To Kill a Mockingbird" off bookshelves. For all its worth I think the Imus thing went way overboard, but I think some of the 'hypocrisy' claims ignore what makes these things so very different.
when people dont know something is a joke, thats a big problem though. you can even joke and mean it and get away with it. Again like I said, even something like if he had a black sidekick like Howard Stern has probably would have changed everything. Theres so many factors that cause an uproar like this, it really isnt as simple a formula as Race X + Comment Y = Fired.
WHo the f*ck listens to Imus anyway? IF they were going to fire him they should have cause he was an annoying old man in a stupid hat, but now he's getting more attention than ever because Al sharpton (who represents EVERY single black person in the world) found what he said offensive and demands that Imus apoligizes to all black people.
unfair comparison, man - if you point at Dave Chappelle I point at Doug Stanhope, George Carlin, Bill Hicks (my hero), David Cross, Sarah Silverman, South Park, that willingly push the lines of race, sexuality, religion, etc. So you cant tell me that white people CANT say anything about race, its simply not true. But it's a retarded web of intent and context, not just the joke but of his job, that Imus got redtaped in. TV shows know comedians are going to push the envelope, that’s their job and people expect it, and it usually has no intent to specifically offend. with Imus he was also joking but he's held to a different standard by both his regular audience and his employer. These simple hypocrisy accusations ignore the fine details out there surrounding a persons job. Pointing at rappers and comedians is cheap rebutting, find me a black on air personality like Juan Williams or Tom Joyner getting away with this sort of sh*t and to me that’s when the accusations will have real merit.
it really annoys me thought, when people treat Sharpton or Jackson as if they are President of Black People. I dont know who sets up these apologies thinking that its required or will solve anything, but they need to stop doing it - especially since it doesn't do anything but hopefully make them specifically shut up for two seconds. Media producers need to stop setting them up for these interviews as the voice of an entire race, because they simply are not.
Those N*gg* Dykes on Rutgers Suck.
The problem is that he isn't racist, the joke wasn't funny enough. He looked douchy to dumb people who aren't racist
Imus shouldn'tve gotten fired :( (even though I don't listen to the guy)
Sharpton and Jackson realy just need to die, the world would be beter w/o them
No one seems to realize that Imus has said this phrase or a similar variant every single year during the women's tourney (and he makes fun of white butch women athletes too). So why now? Who set this in motion? Sharpton and Jackson complain EVERY SINGLE DAY about something, but they only get coverage when someone higher up wants them to. They are merely PR tools.
its a good point. This wasnt an issue simply because Sharpton and Jackson stepped in. They're always stepping in, even against black artists/personalities, and they are listened to only when someone who WANTS to put a microphone in front of them, does. Again I think back to Glenn Beck calling Katrina survivors scumbags and asking Keith Ellison to prove he wasnt a terrorist. All it would have taken was a different set of phonecalls from a different set of influential people to cut off his head. but it didnt happen. Ann Coulter pisses people off all the time, but she survives. Theres tonnes of little factors that determine who lives and who dies by their comments. Its rarely ever fair, theres tonnes of double standards that are beyond race issues, but thats life the media and politics.
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