Citing Sources: A YTMND Lesson
Created on: September 12th, 2006
Sources: The SUPERMAN RETURNS trailer, www.slukes.org, www.solarproducts.com, Yellow Submarine, YTMND.
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Are you a teacher? I mean citing is common courtesy but not necessary. Are you like a 60 year old man? Would "plagiarism" hurt your feelings if it's a YTMND site? Most of us know when things are stolen and/or repeated anyway... and the votes/comments tend to reflect those things. Glad you took it upon yourself to let us know how to act.
As someone who is looking to start making YTMNDs and also does not want to be a hypocrite for hating Eric Bauman I congratulate you on your work. Granted some of the info seems obvious, but that just makes me wonder why people are bitching about citing. Also, nice work on the subtle humor to make it watchable. I simply can't get enough of owning Ted Stevens.
This whole citing sources thing has been getting quite annoying lately. Some people will find any reason to downvote based on anything they can by any chance find wrong with the ytmnd or the person who made it. Being too serious about it is kind of what the newer generations of ytmnders do, I understand, but really, who honestly cares if you didn't cite? This isn't school. This isn't trying to sell something, so get over it. It's the internet for christ sake.
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I also agree, by the way, with smt about ripping from movies and TV series; hence "gtfo" #2. (lol, tongue-in-cheek) However, I believe there are instances where the nature of YTMND in itself subverts the original artwork. As gunhaver so helpfully pointed out, the original YTMND's loop exemplifies that nicely.
Actually sponsered YTMNDs do make money for YTMND. Even if the opperating costs are higher, now that we have ads, this is some sort of a money making operation. Theres still a difference between not citing sources and stealing sh*t, and making money off ads, but its getting smaller. Also dickweeds claim that original YTMND was not a parody: It wasn't the actual clip from the movie, was it? No the random *ss picture of sean pointing ads to the whole thing. It wasn't just stealing it was some sort of juxposition. Don't be a dick and think this is equilolent of reposting internet cartoon or video with a lower frame-rate.
Seriously a big problem with YTMND's. I admit to not having the best citations on the site, but I at least try. Leaving cites blank is the exact same thing a certain Ebaum we know does with his whole site. Trying to cite sources is a step in the right direction, whether or not they are completely correct. You can always try, then later, fix things up. Too bad many people don't even give the effort in the first place.
The only comment I'd have to make is with something from a TV show. If I found a funny clip from a TV show, I probably would not exactly want to go to all the trouble to look up the season/episode number and the title of the episode, especially if I didn't have a clue where the clip came from. For me, just the title of the TV show is fine. Other than that, though, great work.
It's good and helpful, but citing sources really is an overdramatized problem. Most people too stupid to cite are usually too stupid to make good YTMNDs in the first place and are doomed to crappy ratings regardless if they give credit. I mean, just setting a random GIF you find to music and crediting the originals doesn't make it any less of a crappy YTMND.
2'd, because while I am HUGE on citing sources, a lot of this I don't agree with. Also, it was long, juvenile, and poorly made. The funniest part was when you said "if you're manipulating the image somehow (and you should be or gtfo)" If you're actually serious (and you should be or gtfo), I refer you to mr. connery: http://www.yourethemannowdog.com
I'm more referring to the picture-sound combinations which come from the same scene and the same film. I also refer you to my previous comment: "lol, tongue-in-cheek." Not to mention the fact that I did, in fact, say that the FINDING FORRESTER trailer is already subverted for several reasons, not limited to the picture, the loop, and the text. You know. The fundamentals.
"2'd, because while I am HUGE on citing sources, a lot of this I don't agree
with. Also, it was long, juvenile, and poorly made. The funniest part was
when you said "if you're manipulating the image somehow (and you should be
or gtfo)" If you're actually serious (and you should be or gtfo), I refer
you to mr. connery: http://www.yourethemannowdog.com" I see this argument come up way too often. Max took a line that was not intended to be funny and created an entire cult around it. When I downvote thieves, I'm downvoting people who save an image someone else spend time on, add in the typical overused music and call it a YTMND. Sorry, that doesn't fly with me.
For those of you unaware, failure to not properly cite sources is PLAGIARISM and is a CRIME. citing sources is the difference between stealing another's work and claiming it as your own, and properly giving proper to the original creator and intellectual property owner of the work. it's what seperates YTMND from ebaumsworld.
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